The Gapology Guys
Authors Mark Thienes and Brian Brockhoff discuss leadership development topics from their books, ”Gapology”, ”IMBAR”, and ”Speed of Purpose.” Check out their...
Authors Mark Thienes and Brian Brockhoff discuss leadership development topics from their books, ”Gapology”, ”IMBAR”, and ”Speed of Purpose.” Check out their...

Helping Leaders Achieve Their Greatest Potential
As leadership consultants, our career-changing workshops, transformational identity coaching and purpose-focusing partnerships, help leaders and organizations overcome their biggest obstacles and reach their highest heights in order to achieve their most important goals and become what they most desire.
Learn more at www.gapology.org
Episodes
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In this episode of our leadership development podcast, we explore a key concept from our second book, IMBAR: The Pathway of Transformation. We walk through the process of clearly identifying where you are today—your current identity, mindset, behaviors, actions, and results—so you can intentionally design and move toward the future state you’re aiming to achieve.

Thursday Jan 08, 2026
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Ten Winning Traits for Leaders
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
In this episode, we’re talking about ten leadership traits that show up again and again in Winning Leaders. They drive performance, strengthen culture, and raise expectations.The key message: • These traits aren’t born... they’re built. • You can learn them. • You can develop them. • You can teach them to others. Listen in and start building your winning leadership toolkit.
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST(Audio): Ten Winning Traits for Leaders
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
In this episode, we’re talking about ten leadership traits that show up again and again in Winning Leaders. They drive performance, strengthen culture, and raise expectations.
The key message:
These traits aren’t born... they’re built.
You can learn them.
You can develop them.
You can teach them to others.
Listen in and start building your winning leadership toolkit.
Thursday Nov 20, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): AI - The Good, The Bad, & The Inevitable
Thursday Nov 20, 2025
Thursday Nov 20, 2025
AI isn’t coming… it’s already here... and it’s here to stay.
In this week’s episode of The Gapology Guys Podcast, we dive into "AI: The Good, The Bad, and The Inevitable" and explore how Gapology is more important than ever for effectively leading and working in an AI world, and how leaders can harness this transformational force rather than fear it.
Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Gapology Guys Podcast (Audio): 15th Anniversary Edition is Here!
Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Gapology 15th Anniversary Edition is here! Listen to our podcast discussion!
We’re excited to announce the launch of the brand-new edition of our flagship book, “Gapology: How Winning Leaders Close Performance Gaps.”
Over the past 15 years, we’ve worked with organizations across dozens of industries. This new edition brings forward fresh discoveries, refined strategies, and expanded content that build on the original foundation.
Whether you’re brand new to Gapology or a seasoned practitioner, this updated release delivers powerful insights to elevate leadership, performance, and culture.
Order here: https://amzn.to/4nuiWEK
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Gapology Guys Podcast (Audio): Simplicity with Purpose
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Simplicity and purpose drive execution. Complexity slows it down.
In this week’s episode of The Gapology Guys podcast, we explore how leaders can create simplicity by anchoring everything to a clear and compelling organizational purpose. Purpose cuts through the noise, aligns your team, and provides focus for what you do, how you do it, and why it matters.
Listen in as we share practical strategies for eliminating complexity and unleashing the power of purpose to accelerate results.
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Big Red - A new interview framework to select A-Leaders
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Do you or your team struggle with interviewing potential leaders?
In this week’s episode of The Gapology Guys Podcast, we break down a simple, effective framework to identify and select true A-Players for leadership roles.
Don’t miss this insight that can transform the way you build your leadership bench.
Friday Sep 12, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Courageous Leadership
Friday Sep 12, 2025
Friday Sep 12, 2025
In this episode, we share 3 powerful tips for leading with courage—and how it can transform your team and your results.
Thursday Aug 07, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Keeping Your A-Players
Thursday Aug 07, 2025
Thursday Aug 07, 2025
In this podcast episode, we discuss five tips for leaders to incorporate into their rhythm to help keep their top performers.
Monday Jul 21, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): ABC Players & Managing Unequally
Monday Jul 21, 2025
Monday Jul 21, 2025
In this episode of The Gapology Guys Podcast, we discuss the value of reviewing your team, identifying where they would rank in performance around specific tasks, initiatives, or overall, and then managing them unequally based on their individual needs.
Thursday Jun 26, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Managing Change Fatigue
Thursday Jun 26, 2025
Thursday Jun 26, 2025
In this Gapology Guys Podcast episode, we discuss a common occurrence in organizations that go through frequent change events, "Managing Change Fatigue." We share some tips and our thoughts on how to best set your team up for success and how to navigate the burnout you may discover along the way using Gapology.
Tuesday May 20, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): A Conversation with Tiffany & Josh High
Tuesday May 20, 2025
Tuesday May 20, 2025
This week’s episode of the Gapology Guys podcast features an inspiring conversation with Tiffany and Josh High, founders of Results Driven and Heels Homes, Ltd. They offer powerful insights into how they've applied Gapology to drive exceptional performance and build winning cultures within their organizations. Tiffany and Josh share their journey of success, and also provide actionable tips that any leader can use to achieve remarkable results through intentional leadership.
Wednesday May 14, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Training vs. Teaching
Wednesday May 14, 2025
Wednesday May 14, 2025
In this episode of the Gapology Guys podcast, we explore the distinction between training and teaching—two of Gapology’s powerful Root Solutions. We highlight the critical role of leaders as teachers and share how to embed teaching into their leadership rhythm through the intentional use of Teachable Points of View (TPOVs).
Wednesday May 07, 2025
Wednesday May 07, 2025
Brian sits down to chat with leadership trainer and coach Barbara Boselli, founder of BNOW Consulting. They draw connections to IMBAR, and she shares her thoughts and tips on staying curious, creating self-awareness, and blocking reflection time to impact mindset.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Engagement Drives Performance - A winning leader focus
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Has all the “noise” from the world around us clouded your team’s efforts to consistently deliver winning results? In this week’s Gapology Guys podcast episode we share our thoughts from a Gapology perspective on how to leverage your mindset and rhythm to cut through the noise and refocus on behaviors that create impact and action.#gapology #expectations #winningleaders #leadershipdevelopment #leadershiptips @gapology
Wednesday Apr 09, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Clear Expectations - The Foundation of Great Performance
Wednesday Apr 09, 2025
Wednesday Apr 09, 2025
In this podcast episode, Mark and Brian share key components for setting clear expectations to deliver consistent, winning results. This is a fundamental piece from Gapology and one that is instrumental in creating accountability.

Thursday Mar 20, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): The Commitment Ladder
Thursday Mar 20, 2025
Thursday Mar 20, 2025
Mark and Brian share The Commitment Ladder, a powerful tool for winning leaders to use when analyzing their team's level of commitment. The discoveries with this process provide an understanding of how to best adapt their own behaviors in leading them.
Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Knowing-Doing-Being
Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Looking for a great way to view your team’s overall execution and their connection to their skills and mindset? In this week’s Gapology Guys podcast, we discuss a leadership method we call Knowing-Doing-Being.
#gapology #teams #leadership #leaders #business #gap #gaps #performance #coaching #development #book #gapologyradio #podcast #brockhoff #thienes #improvingperformance #winningleaders
Wednesday Feb 19, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): TxM=P (Talent x Mindset = Performance)
Wednesday Feb 19, 2025
Wednesday Feb 19, 2025
Authors Mark Thienes and Brian Brockhoff discuss a leadership equation for examining a team member's level of talent (skills, ability, and execution), their mindset (how they think and feel), and how they contribute to the team member's overall performance level.
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): The Habit Ladder
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
Authors Mark Thienes and Brian Brockhoff discuss a powerful tool from their book, "Gapology," that addresses the shortcomings of traditional training methods and provides practical steps to improve their outcomes.#gapology #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #training #learning #habit #books #methods
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Speed of Purpose Origins
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Authors Mark Thienes and Brian Brockhoff discuss the origins of their third book, Speed of Purpose: Achieving 2.8X Productivity and Beyond. They provide a high-level overview of the framework for wrapping your people, performance, and processes in a clear and compelling purpose. For more details, visit gapology.org.
#gapology #speedofpurpose #teams #leadership #leaders #business #gap #gaps #performance #coaching #development #book #solutions #consulting #gapologyradio #podcast #brockhoff #thienes #gapologist #closinggaps #improvingperformance #winningleaders #winning
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): IMBAR Origins
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
Authors Mark Thienes and Brian Brockhoff share the origins of IMBAR and provide a high-level overview of the model. For more details, visit gapology.org.
Wednesday Jan 08, 2025
GAPOLOGY GUYS PODCAST (Audio): Gapology Origins
Wednesday Jan 08, 2025
Wednesday Jan 08, 2025
Authors Mark Thienes and Brian Brockhoff share the origins of their flagship book, "Gapology: How Winning Leaders Close Performance Gaps." For more information on Gapology, visit www.gapology.org

Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
Ten Traits of Winning Leaders
Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
Wednesday Jul 31, 2024
In this Gapology Radio podcast episode, we share the ten traits of winning leaders based on our research and experience over the past 14+ years of teaching Gapology.

Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
Asking Questions: A Leader's Secret Weapon
Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
Wednesday Jul 24, 2024
Have you been looking for ways to foster independent thinking in your team or to close your own Knowledge Gaps around their performance? In this episode, we discuss the power of asking questions to begin the journey to developing wisdom, solidifying importance, and creating lasting action to produce exceptional results.

Wednesday Jul 17, 2024
Mindset & TxM=P
Wednesday Jul 17, 2024
Wednesday Jul 17, 2024
Feeling stagnant? Noticing stagnancy in your team? Mindset may be the issue. Our formula of TxM=P is a great way to assess the mindset and talent levels of your team… and yourself. Tune in to learn more!

Wednesday Jul 10, 2024
Team IMBAR
Wednesday Jul 10, 2024
Wednesday Jul 10, 2024
Join our discussion on creating a Team IMBAR, the identity mapping process that aligns teams around a powerful vision of who you are... and who you can become... to work together with a singular focus to deliver your highest objectives.

Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
Creating the Right Action
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
Wednesday Jul 03, 2024
In this episode, we discuss strategic ways to align the action of your team by clearly setting expectations and looking to the performance of your A-Players.

Monday Jun 17, 2024
A Gapology Impact Conversation: Danielle Beazley
Monday Jun 17, 2024
Monday Jun 17, 2024
Listen to our conversation with Danielle Beazley, Associate Vice President at Best Buy, and hear how Gapology has impacted her leadership and the leadership rhythm of her team.

Tuesday Jun 11, 2024
Personal Branding
Tuesday Jun 11, 2024
Tuesday Jun 11, 2024
Personal Branding! Listen in to our in-depth discussion on intentionally building a personal brand by choosing and leveraging your core competencies that deliver consistent winning results in your organization.

Thursday Jun 06, 2024
Setting Priorities to Create Action
Thursday Jun 06, 2024
Thursday Jun 06, 2024
Join us for this practical and informative Gapology Radio podcast episode, where we share practical methods for developing and clarifying priorities that lead to action. We’ve made sure to include some fun along the way, making it an episode that’s both enjoyable and useful!

Thursday May 30, 2024
Core Competencies to Close Performance Gaps
Thursday May 30, 2024
Thursday May 30, 2024
Mark and Brian discuss the importance of identifying the Core Competencies, by role, that close Performance Gaps, create action, and deliver winning results.

Wednesday May 22, 2024
Gapology Discoveries
Wednesday May 22, 2024
Wednesday May 22, 2024
Listen in to our Gapology Radio podcast this week as we share some of our own Gapology discoveries from recent workshops and coaching sessions we’ve held. It’s an interesting conversation that you can gain insight from as you apply it to your business. www.gapology.org

Tuesday Apr 30, 2024
Exception Reporting to Create Insight and Action
Tuesday Apr 30, 2024
Tuesday Apr 30, 2024
When deciding on methods to improve your business, start with building Exception Reporting into your Leadership Rhythm. This tactical approach provides incredible insight into who is winning, why they are winning, and how you can impact the rest of your team to create winning action.

Monday Apr 22, 2024
A Gapology Impact Conversation: Chet Enten
Monday Apr 22, 2024
Monday Apr 22, 2024
Listen to our conversation with Chet Enten, Director of Talent Development at Security Finance, as he shares his experience with Gapology and how their amazing team of leaders embedded it into their culture and created a real, lasting impact on their organization.

Wednesday Apr 17, 2024
Framing for Interviews: An Episode Reshare
Wednesday Apr 17, 2024
Wednesday Apr 17, 2024
In this Gapology Radio podcast episode, we "reshare" an older episode on Framing for Interviews. If you are preparing for an important interview, give this a listen. We share some valuable tips for framing your experience and skills in a way that will help you make the most of the opportunity.

Wednesday Apr 10, 2024
Step Up: Courage in the Workplace
Wednesday Apr 10, 2024
Wednesday Apr 10, 2024
Sometimes, no one else can “step up” in the workplace. It is simply up to you! Courage in the workplace can be hard to come by, and the Team may be reluctant to step up. However, modeling “courage” and stepping up will set an example for others. In this Gapology Radio podcast episode, we discuss methods for doing so and creating a culture of courage within your workplace.

Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Mind the Gap: Accountable vs. Apathetic
Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Thursday Apr 04, 2024
There will always be top performers, bottom performers, and the middle group. Gapology is all about seeking the information around these groups. What make them tick? What behaviors create each group and what can we learn through careful analysis? In this Gapology Radio podcast, we discuss "Minding the Gap" between top and bottom performers and the important of creating a culture where leaders and teams feel accountable versus apathetic toward their expectations and overall company objectives.

Thursday Mar 21, 2024
Mind the Gap: Training vs. Wisdom
Thursday Mar 21, 2024
Thursday Mar 21, 2024
Training is only the tip of the iceberg when striving to achieve Organizational Wisdom. In this Gapology Radio podcast episode, we discuss the trap many leaders fall into by assuming that training alone will produce that wisdom. There is a massive gap between training and wisdom, and it requires a focused effort built into our leadership rhythm to deliver an impact where team members learn, think, and behave interdependently to create insight and deliver our objectives, expectations, and purpose.

Wednesday Mar 13, 2024
Emotional Intelligence: A Conversation with Coach Cabrina McLain
Wednesday Mar 13, 2024
Wednesday Mar 13, 2024
How we think and feel impacts how we behave and is described in "Emotional Intelligence," a method for understanding and adjusting our behaviors intentionally using the "EQi" model. In the podcast, our friend Coach Cabrina joins us to share an overview of Emotional Intelligence and her thoughts on how it fits with Gapology and IMBAR to impact performance.

Wednesday Mar 06, 2024
Self-Development: A Teachable Point of View
Wednesday Mar 06, 2024
Wednesday Mar 06, 2024
In this short episode, we share a "Teachable Point of View" on the topic of Self-Development. Growing our own skills is a winning leader behavior that focuses on the areas we want or need to grow, without direction from anyone else. Here we share some tips to make the most of your efforts in this area.

Tuesday Feb 27, 2024
Mind the Gap: Performance vs. Perception
Tuesday Feb 27, 2024
Tuesday Feb 27, 2024
Mind the Gap. This familiar phrase from our friends across the pond provides a slightly different context when examining Performance compared to Perception. In this week’s Gapology Radio podcast, we discuss all of this through the lens of Gapology.

Wednesday Feb 21, 2024
The Being Level: The Leader Matters
Wednesday Feb 21, 2024
Wednesday Feb 21, 2024
When connecting team members to what matters most, the leader matters. They help to show the way and model the mindset needed to live at a "Being Level" for elements most critical to an organization. Listen to our discussion as we describe the "Being Ladder," where we lay out methods to move from "Knowing" and "Doing" to "Being."

Tuesday Feb 13, 2024
Commitment: The Leader Matters
Tuesday Feb 13, 2024
Tuesday Feb 13, 2024
When looking at the various levels of commitment shown by team members, we view them through the lens that the team member is solely responsible for being committed to their role, task, or employment in general. What we tend to forget, however, is the leader’s role and responsibility in all that. In this week’s Gapology Radio podcast, we discuss this important topic and show how the leader matters most.

Tuesday Feb 06, 2024
DABA Change Ladder: The Leader Matters
Tuesday Feb 06, 2024
Tuesday Feb 06, 2024
When teams move through moments of change in the workplace, they experience real human emotions and, as a result, human behaviors that must be planned for by their leader. In this episode, we discuss a model called "The DABA Change Ladder" and how leaders matter in smoothly leading teams through these potentially stressful moments.

Tuesday Jan 30, 2024
Creating Accountability: The Leader Matters
Tuesday Jan 30, 2024
Tuesday Jan 30, 2024
One of the critical elements A-Group leaders bring to the table is a consistent rhythm around creating accountability. This week’s Gapology Radio podcast episode discusses three key ways these winning leaders create transparent and consistent accountability.
Tuesday Jan 23, 2024
Speed of Purpose: The Origins
Tuesday Jan 23, 2024
Tuesday Jan 23, 2024
In our new Gapology Radio podcast episode, Mark and Brian discuss the origins of their third book, “Speed of Purpose: Achieve 2.8X Productivity and Beyond.” They share where it came from, how it is all laid out, and how it can help you when you create a clear and compelling purpose that is wrapped around your People, Performance, and Processes of your organization.
Tuesday Jan 09, 2024
IMBAR: The Origins
Tuesday Jan 09, 2024
Tuesday Jan 09, 2024
In this Gapology Radio podcast episode Mark and Brian discuss the origins of their second book, “IMBAR: The Pathway of Transformation.” They share what it is, where it came from, how it has impacted leaders from many industries, and how it can help you as well.
Thursday Jan 04, 2024
Gapology: The Origins
Thursday Jan 04, 2024
Thursday Jan 04, 2024
In this Gapology Radio podcast episode, authors Mark Thienes and Brian Brockhoff discuss the origins of Gapology.
Mark shares how he originally began looking at the various similiarities and differences in top and bottom performing groups. Then, through extensive interviews and in analyzing the wide swing in mindsets and behaviors between the two groups, many consistent methods surfaced which created sustained winning performance. From there came Gapology.
Hear his incredible story today!
Tuesday Dec 19, 2023
Expectations and Priorities for Impact: Leadership Rhythm Series
Tuesday Dec 19, 2023
Tuesday Dec 19, 2023
You must clarify… and exhibit… the expectations and priorities to create a real impact for your team and yourself. In this week's episode, we discuss the importance of your leadership rhythm when it comes to setting and delivering your highest expectations and overall purpose.










